Fix It 101!?: My HubScore Went Up My Hub Score Went Down! What, Why, And How Does This Mean For Me?

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By Rebecca E.

My Hubs.. How to Fix Them!

This questions asked by Amez is a good one, and one that seems to drive most hub writers to distraction. A personal hub score. Now in their case, the hub score went down big time after writing and publishing two hubs. They are quite worried.

Yes, they have a right to be worried, as a low hubscore affects many things: Your traffic, your hubs, and your links in your hubs (nofollow and dofollow). Still there are a few simple things that can help with regaining a good hubscore. A good hubscore is an important part of your hubpages business. A low score on your hub can also mean that the search engines will rank it a bit lower now with the eyes focused on content farms.

So this hub will try to explain the main worries hub writers have about hub scores, or at least personal hub scores. This will delve into SEO and business, but also hubpages in general.

And you guys thought I only write about money... ha!

The link between writing hubs and hubs scores is well debated, but still there is room for some understanding.
The link between writing hubs and hubs scores is well debated, but still there is room for some understanding.

Hubpages and hubs

A Bit About Hubapges and Hub scores before we begin: On your avatar at the bottom of the right hand corner is a number-- it can be from 1-100. 100 is the best you can have 1 is the lowest. There is a number you need to aim for.

For the most part, the goal for any hub writer is to have that personal hub score number above a 75. This will allow you to have your links work as a dofollow (I'm not all that up to the correct definition for this, but I believe this means your links are better in the grand scheme of things.). There are ways that is score is affected. You of course are the biggest factor in the score but there are a few other things ( which you affect anyways)

Your new hubs, your old hubs, your traffic, your traffic sources, and interactivity.

New Hubs: The more new hubs you make which have a low score ( to me this is anything below a 55-- for a newer hub writer) the bigger the drop in a personal hub score you have. So if you write say 2 hubs in one day you are certainly not doing yourself any favors. I will let you in one something I do with my hubs. I don't publish them right away. I hit the "save unpublished" button. This gives me a chance to look it over a few times, and to ask myself questions before i publish a hub.

Older Hubs: These hubs should never ever ever go below a score of 60. Ever. I can go to any hub writer and hit the "more" button on their profile and look at their hubs. It this gives me an outline of the hub, and the score and more importantly when it was published. Something which was published say 10 months ago, and has a hub score of say 40 isn't going to make anyone want to read it. This also affects your score.

Traffic and Traffic Sources: I think I've said this a million times or more, but hubpages is a business and you are a writer who needs traffic for your business. You need a high scoring hub to get traffic. You can get it from other sources yes, but still if you don't have a high score, people won't link to your hub ( which means you) and help you out. Think quality and traffic then write a great hub.

Interactivity: Never think you are smarter than anyone here. (I certainly am not the smartest here so there you go) Still the one thing I try to do to the best of my ability is to be interactive. I try to comment on each person personally. I try to get conversations going and tell people I've replied to their questions. I believe this affects hub scores big time. if you aren't interactive yet, get interactive. Yes this means you go and read a hub of theirs to tell them you've responded, but still that keeps your hub scores high.

 

A Good Quality Hub Takes Time: This little phrase should be your guide. End of story.

Okay, fine so you want more of a story, so here is the basics, you can edit everything except the URL that you have for this hub. Now I know I make mistakes, but fortunately not too many in the URL. Still, you can leave a hub unpublished to fix it up.  Except for that URL, but still that is pretty good.

Honestly, if you write a 500 word hub and then hit publish, more than likely, it will have a hub score of 50, but still you need to get traffic and that is what google wants to see.  Google likes hubs with traffic, and links so work with this, but no over promotion.  Now, if you were to say...

Write that same hub, but hit the "save unpublished" button, you can go back and edit things, add links you've found of and generally make a better impression than a hub of the same length but which has a score of 50. That takes a couple of days to get to-- or at least for me.  Right now I have about 3 hubs that are in the not published stage so I can go back and fix them up.

Quality ALWAYS trumps Quantity.

Understand what affects your personal hubscore: Now this isn't about money or traffic it is about personal knowledge, you write a hub and no one comments right away on that hub and then ( admit it you panic!) you write another hub, your score will go down.

But, if you go and give some comments to others hubs, and generally get interactive with the people who come to your hubs, you'll find your score will go up...sometimes quickly, and sometime more slowly.

Polls or Quizzes are great thing to have on a hub, since often many people won't comment on a hub, but will take two seconds to hit a button on a poll. So that is one way to get traffic to stay but to also increase your scores.

Some thing which I've noticed is that people with hugh scores are really interactive with others.  Including the ones who normally won't comment.  So what does that tell you?

Traffic what? : I know This may not seem like a big thing that will affect your hub score, but traffic does affect your score. So if you have say 100 visitors in one day and then 50 your score might go down a bit.

Granted scores do go up and down for what seems to be no reason, but that should only be between 1-5 points over a 48 hour period. So beware when the score drops more than 5 in 12 hours, there is something wrong.

The other thing about hubscores, is that traffic from just one source will make your scores go a bit more up and down, so if you have 100 visitors, and they are all from hubpages, then this isn't such a great thing.

So go to the "my account" ( look at the very top of the page right above your avatar) section on hubpages, and go to the section that says traffic sources. If you've been here a while you'll find that there are a lot of traffic sources, but for new hub writers you should have at least 3 that have traffic each day.

Once you get traffic, your hubscores will stabilize more as well.

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SEO and Business:  Now I'll say this, you'll find a few hubs which are written by hub writers who have left hubpages, but have not closed their accounts!!  This is a reader beware type hub, as often times, the information has changed   But also if you read through the hubs you'll find a negative bend towards hubpages near the end.

It takes time to build a business such as online articles, and you need help from learning the basics such as Keywords, Google, AdSense, and SEO.  These three need a even bigger foundation, basic knowledge of hubpages.

If you don't understand what your hubscores mean and how you can fix them, the hubs themselves don't have much chance to get traffic and for you to improve your hubscore. 

So...

-- Don't panic, it's nothing personal.

-- Write one hub a day and see what happens

-- look at your older hubs

--Link between your hubs

--Get interactive

-- Quality is better than Quantity.

 

To your success on hubpages, keep publishing!

 

Comments

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 7 weeks ago

Bill-- welcome to hubpages, keep on publishing your hubs and see where it goes.

Bill Seemiller 8 weeks ago

Rebecca, thanks for writing this helpful article. I'm new to HubPages and hope to share interesting articles with people. It's also a nice place to network abd meet like minded people. Thanks again.

Bill

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Rachelle Williams Level 4 Commenter 5 months ago

Thank you for sharing this informative hubs. I think I have a handle on the basics now...

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 5 months ago

cclitgirl-- I hope it helps... it's a daily thing, but not something you need to worry about unless it's really swining.

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cclitgirl Level 7 Commenter 5 months ago

Thank you for this information. I have been looking on HB for what exactly the scores all mean and it's starting to make sense. I admit I'm on a steep learning curve here. :)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 6 months ago

Robert-- a hubscore of 1 usually means you need to stop doing something, for excample some people follow everyone and this usually bring down a hub score pretty quick. Or they publish too many hubs at once. This has happened. Short comments also can do that!

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Robert Erich Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

Yes! Thank you for this post. I had a terribly confusing thing happen. After being on hubpages for about a week I have 80+ followers, 7 published articles, have made $6, and have a hubscore of 1! I'm not sure whether it's good or bad at the present time. lol

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 8 months ago

wba-- if you are getting traffic just remeber it's a beginning, I usally find getting outside traffic needs a bit of time and a lot of links done over time of course.

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wba108@yahoo.com Level 7 Commenter 8 months ago

Thank you Rebecca E., I'll keep that in mind!- WBA

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 8 months ago

wba-- I have found as a general rule, that unless you have worked long and hard on always improving your hubs ect, you will find it harder to get traffic from other sites. I had to fix up and do work with keyword research tools a lot for ti to make a difference.

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wba108@yahoo.com Level 7 Commenter 8 months ago

Rebecca E.- Thanks for the great advise! I'm still puzzled as to why I don't get more traffic from outside HubPages? Good idea about the polls and quizzes.-Regards-WBA

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 9 months ago

ktrapp-- i know the feeling- I still find the same thing- typos galore.

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ktrapp Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

As I was just reading your reply and reading my previous comment again I noticed several typos in my comment, which only makes your point about not publishing hubs for a few days to fix things up.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 9 months ago

ktrapp-- it is true you have to spend time working with it. that reflects on it later.

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ktrapp Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

I really appreciate the part about perfecting a piece an waiting to publish it. I have been trying to do this, but as am a new hubber am also to get my work published. I do think I need to do a better job on adding links to my hubs, as a way of leading to more information for my readers. Thanks for the excellent advice. You've got my vote up!

Fay Paxton 13 months ago

Thanks for this informative article. up/useful

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 14 months ago

tsmog-- you are welcome. Head to teh help center there is a lot of information there.

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tsmog Level 7 Commenter 14 months ago

Great article. I have a better understanding of scoring now. I also will take more time to read the help center information now too. Thank you

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 14 months ago

super-man-- feel free to ask anyquestions you might have, always here to help.

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super-man 14 months ago

great article, lots of good information... really puts my ones to shame. Thanks:)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 14 months ago

MPChirs-- Too much of anything is a bad thing, and I would say a quality hub will take more than an hour to write and keyword research.

Do-follow tags are again good, but there is the problem that like pagerank, it really doesn't not matter as much in teh long run since something will be bound to "give"

So, it will drop your hub score to teh point where all your hubs are no-follow is you post 2 or three hubs in one or two hours.

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MPChris Level 1 Commenter 14 months ago

As long as your hubs are quality content, I don't think the amount of posting per day is significant. I've noticed though, that if I'm being thorough with posting, it takes at least 25-50 minutes to write a good hub.

My average is 1.5 hubs per hour, sometimes to 2.

Also, do-follow tags are an important part of your website marketing program. When google robots are searching through the internet, they are going through every page and every link, if its indexed to them.

The number of links you have inbound affects your page-rank positively, while out-bound links work negatively (though are less-weighted). Also, the higher your PR, the more your outbound links are worth.

Dofollow is an attribute in the tag, which tells the bot to reference this link/include it in PR calculations. No follow is not. No follow will not affect your PR, but will still generate some organic traffic flow.

Dofollow will provide positive bonus to PR and organic traffic.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 15 months ago

revmjm-- it is a bit of a second eyes thing, I can attest that both methods work, but if there are some info errors, this will be caught sooner, on the second look!

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revmjm Level 2 Commenter 15 months ago

I am guilty of writing more than one hub per day and publishing my hubs as soon as I finish writing them. Now I am going to refrain from posting more than one hub per day and I am going to refrain from publishing right away. As usual, thanks for the advice.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 15 months ago

GL-- beginning to love the number 99... didn't someone say that ws a great one number?

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Green Lotus Level 6 Commenter 15 months ago

Hi Rebacca - I saw an HP link to this Hub listed on my latest Hub and realized I had missed it. What great (and useful) information. I've managed to hit 100 on several occasions but it only sticks for a day or two at the most.I'm working on improving that :) Thanks!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 15 months ago

john-- I son't suggest going lower than 75 that is for sure, as for banning, I am not sure, I've sen people with a score of 1 still aorund.

john 15 months ago

what is the lowest you can go on hubpages before they might ban you?

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 15 months ago

amy-- just make sure it doesn't go too far down, sometimes even relaxing for a day is all it takes =)

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amymarie_5 Level 6 Commenter 15 months ago

Thanks for the advice. My score dropped down to 67 today and I was in a panic. From what I read I don't think I'm doing anything wrong so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and see if it goes up again...

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 16 months ago

kcreecy- ti is too valueable to not do this =)

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kcreery 16 months ago

Great hub. It is always good to ensure that your hubs are performing like they should.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 16 months ago

FabLiz-- I try my best, see if these suggestion help.

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FabLiz86 16 months ago

Thanks for the great advice. Thorough and to the point.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 16 months ago

msms-- it is not easy this internet business, but sometimes it helps to know teh basics, which is what I try to do.

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msms 16 months ago

Rebecca - You wrote simple things very simple way, but that is the most difficult - to be simple - in complex field of internet business. Thanks for sharing a good-deep- experience with your analysis.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 17 months ago

kimbles-- it is a bt of a time thing and you need to be dedicated, but it is also hit and miss in terms of writing.

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kimbles 17 months ago

I have genereally always managed to get traffic to my main websites but getting traffic to your hub can be a nightmare. I read this and found you due to your impressive 99 personal score, very impressive and congratulations.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 17 months ago

jolee-- tehre are two numbers to understand-- your personal hub scores and that of your older hubs and newer hubs. Never lose site of those two numbers.

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joleenruffin 17 months ago

Thanks for posting this hub Rebecca. I joined hubpages just 6 days ago and I was mystified as to what all the numbers meant. I now have a much better understanding :)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 17 months ago

joyce.blue-- yes it is especially if you are writing to make money, your hub score is vital.

joyce.blue 17 months ago

hub score is really important for hubbers and you hub is really helpful. This also make me understand why my score would increase or decrease.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 18 months ago

roti-- it is a long article, but I have found, that an article of about 700-1200 words does much better than an article of about 400 words. Still there is a lot to cover withthis one.

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rotl 18 months ago

Very helpful, thanks! I've been trying to figure out why my hubber score won't go up. Long article though (which is good), I just have to re-read a few times to make sure I got everything.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 18 months ago

destiny-- you are most welcome.

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destiny357 18 months ago

Thanks for the info!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 19 months ago

BobbiRant-- it is partly and it is something that is SEO based, a nofollow is where Google put it's "trackers" following the link, you put a tag which says "nofollow" and this stops google from following said links.

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BobbiRant Level 4 Commenter 19 months ago

I thought nofollow is supposed to be a tool to help prevent spammers?

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 19 months ago

shawnboatin1-- most(like myslef begin at about 1-5 as a starting hubscore, but with time and quality comments and content that people need, and rate up you will find you score goes up quickly.

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shawnboatin1 19 months ago

what is your hub score when you first start out? i forgot?

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 19 months ago

Green lotus-- there always is tons to learn around here, so much value in hubpages.

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Green Lotus Level 6 Commenter 19 months ago

I caught your hub on the "recommended" list on one of my Hubpages and had to check it out. You say it so well and with such clarity and direction. There's always something new to learn when it comes to HP. thanks!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 19 months ago

Seafarer Mama-- not a problem my pleasure, and feel free to browse through my hubs, happy to help out.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 19 months ago

k9keystrokes-- hub scores do go up and down, but the mroe you hjelp and participate teh more likely you will find success in terms fo your hub scores.

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Seafarer Mama Level 5 Commenter 19 months ago

Thanks for writing a great hub...ditto on all the reasons stated by "K9keystrokes". Looking forward to reading more of the hubs you have written.

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K9keystrokes Level 7 Commenter 19 months ago

Rebecca E this is a vey well presented and easy to read hub. Understanding the points of importance hwen it comes to hub scores can make or brake a writer. Thank you for a super good read. I learned much here.

K9

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 20 months ago

fayehelen-- My pleasure to be of help to others.

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fayehelen 20 months ago

New to hubpages and still learning, but at least I understand what the little numbers next to my name and hubs mean now. :) thankyou!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 20 months ago

sligobay-- then welcome to teh community, it does get a bit crazy but still so much good advice. It's okay to learn via simple reading, but commenting does a dd a bit to other things, still, you'll find mroe tips when commenting than otherwise.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 20 months ago

nettraveller-- it is something to think about, sometimes you never know what it might do, so giving it that "infant" time will really help it. Writing itself on word,t hen pasting and still let it be is a good thing as well

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sligobay Level 6 Commenter 20 months ago

Thanks RE- I haved made zero money to date and this was never a concern. I stayed in my own little world of my own Hubs-writing, reading but not commenting. Now, I have joined the Hub Community and am reading tips like the ones supplied by your article. Thank you. I am now following you to learn more. Cheers.

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nettraveller 20 months ago

Thank you for the tip about letting a Hub mature unpublished. I usually write everything offline in Word, check it, get all my pictures together in a file, and then open HubPages, assemble the Hub in an hour or so and publish it right away. I see now how that may not be such a good strategy. I'll try doing the writing itself in HubPages and saving the Hub unpublished.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 20 months ago

Catalin-- you are most welcome, happy to help out.

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Catalin79 20 months ago

Nice one, thanks for info. Great job.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

MrWine- in your case you will want to build links to these hubs and get traffic to them and try to edit them to get teh most out of them. The mroe traffic from more respected sources will help you out. Comemtning like this is a good way to begin.

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Mr Wine 21 months ago

OK, so if you have a HUB that is under 60 you should unpublish it? I made the mistake of publishing multiple hubs and now my score across the board are shocking.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

Brian-- it does in more ways than one, as you can make more money by having high quality good content hubs.

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Brian Colborne 21 months ago

Love your hub, it certainly does make sense to publish high quality hubs!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

proudmamma-- thanks, and welcome to hupages. Learning and doing more is the key.

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proudmamma Level 3 Commenter 21 months ago

Your hub was very informative. I'm still new to hub pages and learning daily. Thanks great information. Now off to learn more.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

the dragon-- yep it does go up and down but there are ways to prevent big problems later.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

einron-- simpy go to the top of your web sit, and the address you need is there, the hit copy. ( I am referin to the area where you woul typein we ste addresses.)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 21 months ago

equealla-- thanks, always my pleasure to help out.

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thedragon319 21 months ago

Great article...now I know what to do and not to do..

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einron Level 4 Commenter 22 months ago

I am not new, but I am hopeless with technical terms. How can I link my hub with other hubs of the same topic? I do not know what to write on the url for linking?

Thanks!

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equealla 22 months ago

This info was very helpful, as usual. You do give good advice. Thanx.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 22 months ago

lisabeaman-- ti does happen some times, it is kinda like a credit score.. too many things at once, and then the score drops, build up for a while and the score goes up.

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lisabeaman Level 2 Commenter 22 months ago

I'm really glad that I stumbled upon this hub! I've noticed that every time I publish a hub, my score will start to go down as much as 4 points. That has made me hesitant to write. I'm trying the "save unpublished" thing to see it the score will raise before publishing. I hoping that works. Thanks!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 22 months ago

MakeMoneGoal-- keep on fixing up and linking and working at building your "trust" bank with other hubbers and you will see some numbers go up, just make sure you don't do too much at once... baby steps baby steps.

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MakeMoneyGoal 22 months ago

Hi Rebecca. I was a bit inactive for about a month and my writer hub score hovered around the 87-89 mark. Now in the last week I go really active and got some fairly good scoring hubs going. I also start following a lot of others and commenting on their articles as well as receiving and replying to a lot of comments on mine. What I noticed is that my hub score is dropping heavily and it might be due to either my following a lot of others or because I have several hubs with a similar title (they are in three parts but cover different content.

Anyways. I am taking my low scoring hubs off and am going to change the titles to reflect the content a bit more and see what effect that has.

Thanks for the info. James

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

vicki-- keep on learning it is teh best way to go, keep on writing and you will see success.

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vicki goodwin Level 3 Commenter 23 months ago

Thank you for a great hub. I am still trying to learn as much as I can and this is great information.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

Pcunix-- gee make me blush, I am always happy to help out anyway i can.

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Pcunix Level 7 Commenter 23 months ago

Good job. I was about to make a post in a similar theme and went hunting and found this. I don't need to write my post now; I will just send people here.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

twhite-- keep fixing them and adding links and that usually helps out a lot more. Keep on writing and linking between hubs, you've got the idea.

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twhite94 23 months ago

Thank you so much for the great article. I am going to try to get more traffic from many different sources. My Hub score has steadily been going up, but my hubs have been dropping and spiking these last two days. They are starting to level out higher than they were, so this is good. I might need to restructure a few though. Thanks for all the help and great advice.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

chin acne-- good luck on the fix up

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chin acne 23 months ago

Hi, Rebecca E.

Thank you very much for the information . Now I already know I have done wrong. Thank you again

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

Iceman-- yes it does that, but writing great hubs and commenting and interacting is a big help.

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Iceman1987 23 months ago

Great read! I needed this information since i'm new and have been watching my hubscore fluctuate :(

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

brightforyou-- in you case, I would say add mroe links and then see where it goes they seem somewhat on the sort side, but I'll keep looking.

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brightforyou Level 1 Commenter 23 months ago

Thanks for the advice. So any old hubs scoring less than 60 should be removed? Great hub, thank you.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

Glenn-- I look upon basics as being teh foundation to everything else you want to build, and making sure your writing is strong is also a must.

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Glenn Stok Level 6 Commenter 23 months ago

Thanks Rebecca for these reminders. It's helpful to review the basics from time to time.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 23 months ago

Cenay-- tell me how it works, and I hope it helps you out. It takes a bit of time, but it seems when you do get interactive with other hub writers it helps.

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Cenay 23 months ago

Great information here. I need to print it out and study. I my scores bite, and with help from your great guide, I can reverse that.

I will be fixing that up!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 24 months ago

Donna- I shall work on a hub karma one as wel, since you asked so nicely!

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DonnaWallace 24 months ago

Thank you, Rebecca E. I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts on HubKarma... maybe it's a potential hub!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 24 months ago

Donna-- you are most welcome, this is the basics and has since changed a bit, ie hubkarma, but for teh most part, this is the foundation.

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DonnaWallace 24 months ago

Thank you very much for the article on Hub scores. It's very helpful and gives me something to think about!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 24 months ago

schoolgirlforeal-- thanks for teh comment I try to help others as best I can, glad to read this has helped.

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schoolgirlforreal Level 5 Commenter 24 months ago

The subject is a very interesting question for me, and you explained it well!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

My Dog Training-- well then welcome to hubpages, happy this has helped you out and all teh best to your success on hubpages!

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My Dog Training 2 years ago

Great clear information, easy to understand, thank you so much, keep up the good work. I am trying to learn more about hub pages,Ok, Yess Newbie :)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

LouLa Bll-- keep up teh good work, even with challeneges sometimes they are only a stepping stone to greater success.

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LouLa Ball Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Thank you for the this hub. It is very informative. I will take the advice. I am a newbie and stuggling just a bit.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

selrach-- I am happy to help, hub score is a combination of a lot of things, but the above are someways to help maintain a good hubscore.

selrach 2 years ago

Thanks for this info. hubscore is very hard to understand.You answer a lot of the question most hubbers have on this subject.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

the queen-- thanks for teh comment, welcome to hubpages. I am always happy to help in any way I can.

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THE-QUEEN 2 years ago

Thanks for the information. As a newbie this hub has answered most of my questions. This is a perfect example of a quality hub.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Running Bunny-- teh more quality hubs you have the better your hub score, always happy to help out.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

ashelsher-- you are most welcome, happy to help.

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Running Bunny 2 years ago

As someone who has only recently joined hubpages can I just say thank you for your series of hubs on hub scores and hub quality. They have made very interesting (and informative) reading

ashelsher 2 years ago

More useful info for newcomers!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

bobthym-- I am so glad you are back, just remeber links links and more links, interactivity is great as well.

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bobthym 2 years ago

Great hub. I some articles and quit last summer. I'm starting to pick some momentum again. Still learning about how to make money. This piece rally helped.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

the pink umbrella-- go to edit, then go to the top right hand corner in edit and hit teh button for either poll or quizzes and then follow the instructions.

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the pink umbrella Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

how do i put little quizzes on my hubs?

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

raisingme-- right back at ya eh?! not a problem I enjoy writing and love what i do.

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raisingme 2 years ago

And again, THANK YOU! From one Canuck to another - you rock!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

enzodamico-- I know you will, it will take time but I know you will see success.

enzodamico 2 years ago

Great article. But based on the amount of comments you have here everyone else already knows this is a great article. I'm jealous! I hope one day I can achieve your success!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

mquee-- it seems to help others, and yes it took me a while to figure this all out, but that is what I have coe up with, thanks for the kind comment.

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mquee Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Hi, you have cleared up quite a bit for me. I was puzzling as to just how much control I had over these scores. All writers new to Hub Pages should read this.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

tehbecon-- am I gald that this helps you, for some it improves their socre and for others it might not for for the majority of hub writers it does. Keep nteracting on other hub writers and you will see success.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

JWestCattle-- in my own perpective it has nothing to do with politics, but a good hub I have written both conservative and libral writings and it has not affected my score either way.

If however you are mroe confrontational, you will find it hard to get a good score. I can tell you this as I have several hubs which deal with writing and money and also about eurpoe in terms of Romania and Hubgary and land, and that one hub is lively and I simply moderate.

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JWestCattle 2 years ago

For all that one does all these things correctly, it has become somewhat clear over the past two months that a hub profile score, and even individual hub scores, has much to do with whether one is a conservative or a liberal on these pages -- and of course if one is benign politically, then the basics of attaining and maintaining a nice hub score as outlined here likely apply.

To sum up, following all of your suggestions results in temporary profile and hub score increases, but if your subject matter is largely conservative, it is short-lived.

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thebeacon 2 years ago

Thank you for your explanation. I was wondering why is that when ever I post a new hubpage system automatically hupage score. It is kind of frustrating because it takes a while to write a great article and I get a low score. I guess that is the name of the game.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

viking305-- always happy to help I try to do what i suggest gets traffic all around.

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viking305 Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks for the answers. Everything is easy when you know how lol. I didnt see those buttons there for polls and quizes even though they were staring me in the face lol

Thks again

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

viking305-- I'll certainly do that, but the basic idea is when you go and edit a hub, hit teh buttons that says either quiz or poll ( there are two different ones and it is create your own from there.

as for links I mean both your website ( but don't over promote) or links between hubs or links to other sites, the best are liks between hubs.

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viking305 Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

Thank you so much for explaining all you have here. It is a great help to me as I am still learning how HubPages works.

Would you mind explaining how you were able to get the quiz into your hub or give me a link where it explains this thks.

When you say 'links' in your hub does this mean links to my own website where I advertise other stuff or links to say a phone distributor if my hub is about communication?

Sorry bout the questions but you certainly know what you are talking about and I always say ask the experts lol.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Arioch-- always happy to help others.

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Arioch Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Some good advice in there thanks

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Aley Martin-- iam happy to help you. Hubpages is great and it does help tohers, and I enjoy writing here as well.

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Aley Martin Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks. Good info for a newbie. I previously blogged on other websites, but this seems more aligned with my purpose. I think this HUB helped me a great deal.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

traderx---for each hub there is a few things that make it lower scoring lack of comments and newness being the big ones. If it appears to be teh same hub without links then you've also got a problem. I'll look at your hubs.

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traderx 2 years ago

Thanks for the pointers. A few things I do not understand is how they actually rank an individual hub. I have many hubs that share an almost identical layout, including all modules. The writing is all on a similar topic, and all are about the same length. Some are rank 50, some are 65 - even the traffic is about the same. So this always puzzles me how there can be such a drastic difference on what appear to be almost identically looking hubs, even from a unique content amount point of view.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Adam Gee-- mine did for a while until I learned all of this, but really it is when your hub is lower scoring that this happens. Interactivity is the biggie as well.

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AdamGee 2 years ago

Thanks, Rebecca! This was very helpful. My hub score dropped from an 89 to an 83 in one day.. I will take your advice and try to be more interactive.

-Adam

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

pmccray-- of course you are welcome.

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pmccray Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Ahh sweet clarity, thanks again Rebecca E. for your words of wisdom and sharing with us lost souls.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

prasetio30-- yes, I think this is useful since it was a request but it will help others, and I myself found some things out in the process

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prasetio30 Level 8 Commenter 2 years ago

thank you Rabbeca or this information. I also felt my hub after it went up and then my hub score went down. I think this information useful for us.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Rose West-- same as me, but I try to fix the mistakes as best I can, but sometimes a few get left in!

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Rose West Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

Great article! I find that if I save unpublished, my hub score has time to go up before I decide to publish it. And I have time to fix mistakes. Of course, I'm often too impatient to wait.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

hynodude-- yes it was something I thought long and hard with the question also added that they went from I think, 87-84-74, in a matter of 48 hours so I was careful not to add it for that reason as well.

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hypnodude 2 years ago

It's a certainty, actually yesterday when I wrote the comment I had just read one. But not adding it was right given the aim of the hub. :)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

hypnodude-- that is a possiblity but in this case the case of teh person question asker i wouldn't suggest that part! I debated that one point for a long time, but decided against adding it.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

borge_009-- you are welcome. good luck on hubpages

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hypnodude 2 years ago

Rebecca, you have forgotten to say that with a high author hubscore it is possible to publish a very low quality hub which nevertheless will have a hubscore above 80, an added benefit of having a high author score.

Other than that this hub is perfect, and as usual a must read. I've never thought about Traffic Source, that's very interesting and useful. My warning level is 90 as author and 76 for the hub, and as a matter of fact there are a couple of hubs that I find very difficult to improve, I've already tried almost everything editing around five times each of them. I think when I'll have time I'll have to rewrite them completely.

Thumbs up and stumbled, thanks for the always good advices. :)

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borge_009 2 years ago

Thanks Rebecca. Its an excellent hub and I can get informations that I can use as a newbie.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

fastfreta-- you are welcome, i love reading your hubs as well they are so well written

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

JannyC-- anytime you have a question, I'll answer it, you can even request the answer from me, which of course means a hub for you!

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fastfreta Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks Rebecca, the more I read of hubs like this the better I become at this writing thing. Thanks very much for one of my daily lessons on the site.

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JannyC 2 years ago

I was just thinking about this and was going to look or post the questions on in the forums for an answer on the hub score thing. I guess I dont have to go looking now or post a question on it. You answered every question I had in my mind. Kind of spooky. Lol

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

lee B-- the unpublished hubs do change quite a bit I think based on word counts and all sorts fo other things, but it gives an idea of how it might do at word counts ect, and of course if you aim for 60 before hitting publish it seems to settle down faster once published to.

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Lee B Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

I have learned so much from reading your hubs and was hoping you'd write about scores. Sometimes I think "they" are just messing with me! One thing that REALLY puzzles me is that I have several unpublished hubs whose scores change frequently. I have unpublished hubs with higher scores than some of my published hubs. This seems just crazy to me.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

2patricias-- for some reason it never worries me about the higher scoring individual hubs, but teh lower socring ones, so I forgot to add that one, thanks for that.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

drbj-- you are welcome for me this is what I love doing, so it doesn't get any better than this.

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shaz-- won't say it any other way!

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

shelia b-- thanks for the compliment, glad you learn something from me.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Duchess-- Great to see you again always good to read. Sometimes the work doesn't feel like work.

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2patricias Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago

We would add one thing: expect fluctation in the score on each Hub, particularly those with a lot of activity. We have one Hub that moves between 85 and up. It has been 100 at least once. Don't get too worried by these movements. As you say, the onces to worry about are those in the 50s or below.

Thanks for another interesting Hub.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Gojijuice Goodness-- thanks for teh explaination f do-follow links (it confused me until now) of course I am not a tech type person.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Micky Dee- yes Unchained is one of the greatets writers on hubpages.

With followers it;s a hard thing, but still I try to get around to them... Trying being teh opperative word.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

D.A.L-- happy you bookmarked it, that's a big pick me up.

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hello hello-- not a problem always happy to help.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

D.A.L-- comment are possibly better than the hub, but it begins with teh hub =)

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Micky Dee- you are welcome!

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samboiam-- you are welcome.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Eddy2106-- good luck, you'll see the results pretty quick.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

green tea-cher-- yes interactivity is a must, but also do some on your followers sites ( which i am lacking at the moment!)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Unchained Grace-- teh teacher has been taught, by the master (you)

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

SandySpider-- now for each hub themselves, I am not entirely sure, but I do believe the score need to be 40, but still ( don't qutoe me on that) but I am certain of the personal hubber socre which is 75

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

juneaukid- so do i at least with my really older hubs or my blogs for that matter =)

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drbj Level 8 Commenter 2 years ago

Rebecca, you've done it again.

You have written another exceptional "How to Do it and Why" hub that should gladden the hearts (and pocketbooks) of every sincere hubber.

You are very special - not just because of your hub/blog knowledge but because you are willing to share it.

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shazwellyn Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Say it as it is, my friend! Well done! Shaz x

sheila b. Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

You're a good writer, starting at the beginning, filling in the gaps, and I always feel I've learned something from you.

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Duchess OBlunt Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Like you've said many times before Rebecca, it's not just "I want so I get". It's I want - I work - I receive" Lots of work to make it work, and you do such a good job of it. As always, very informative.

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GojiJuiceGoodness 2 years ago

Wonderful hub! It's good that my theories about hubpages are confirmed. I had wondered about this for awhile. Also, do-follow links provide backlinks to the website you link to. So, if I have a link on a hub to my website, it pulls my website up in the search engines a bit for every do-follow link. :)

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Micky Dee Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Unchained- you sure have great hubs.You're very diplomatic. I scare folks off.

Thanks Rebecca E. I'm back again as it (HP) didn't record that I had been here.

As we have more and more "followers" - we have more and more to follow. I try to go back to all hubs and read and view what each has to say. It isn't reciprocated and then for lack of time I have to "dance with the ones who dance with me". I will return to the non-reciprocating but usually if they don't-they don't. Thanks.

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D.A.L. 2 years ago

RebbecaE, thank you for helping me to understand a lot more about hub pages and hubs in general I have booked marked this page for future reference. I found your hub most interesting.

I also enjoy reading the comments of other hubbers' that your hub has inspired.

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Hello, hello, 2 years ago

Thank you, Rebecca, for coming back and explaining.

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D.A.L. 2 years ago

Rebbeca E, thank you for helping me to understand a lot more about hub pages and hubs in general I have booked marked this page for future reference. I found your hub most interesting.

I also enjoy reading the comments of other hubbers' that your hub has inspired.

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Micky Dee Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Great advice. Thanks!

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samboiam 2 years ago

Rebecca E., this is very helpful. Thanks for the tips.

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Eddy2106 2 years ago

thanks for the information, and i will start leaving more comments, and not publishing hubs quickly, but working on them a few days and then publishing them, thanks.

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green tea-cher 2 years ago

Good points Rebecca, especially on the importance of being interactive and linking to other hubs. Thanks for the tips.

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Unchained Grace Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Rebecca, my Authorscore has been bouncing though fluctuation is now never more than 2-3 points either way.

I do take every opportunity to comment as much as I possibly can given the fact HubPages is not in any way my full time gig. The ministry is. Although the ministry is not where I derive what little income I do have, it is the focal point of everything for me.

I can do so much with what little time I do have. I have 101 followers and I do everything possible. There are approximately 5-6 of those 101 that routinely show up and comment. We are expected to go out and do great things in terms of interaction, yet it goes two ways. I have neither the time nor the energy to ask each and every person via email why they don't show up anymore.

I show up on your Hubs because I learn and also wish to show support and yet I never see you on mine. I'm just following the teacher's instructions.

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Sandyspider Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

I have been wondering about this. So if my avatar is higher than 75 but some of my hubs are in the 60s, does that mean they are no follows or it all goes with what shows on my avatar?

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juneaukid Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks again Rebecca E for sharing your knowledge. I keep going back to older hubs and find that some didn't get shared on Dig or Stumble Upon. Once I share these older hubs then the score rises and visits go up. So there are probably a number of older hubs out there that haven't been shared because they were written before the hubber even knew about sharing.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

UlrikeGrace-- I am glad this helped, if it makes it much easier for others I am glad.

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UlrikeGrace Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

Actually this was helpful Rebecca...thanks for taking the time to do this.

Blessings to you

UlrikeGrace

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Mystique1957-- happy your liked this, of coruse you know writing is something i love doing so there you go. I'll keep writing don't you worry.

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Mystique1957 2 years ago

My Dearest Becca...

You should be preaching instead of writing! Seriously! Somehow people do "listen" to you! Well, do not stop writing but, Keep on being the great person you are! Kindness dances in your aura 24/7.

Thank you for being here, deary!

Thumbs up! You know the bit... R.B.S

warmest regards and a cosmos full of blessings,

Al

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

hello hello-- Now fro teh down/ up arrows it is the 7 days versus that day, so teh down arrow willc ome when the traffic is lower than the average for 7 days ( so take teh 7 dya number and divide by 7) that is my educated guess.

But the $$$ is the revenue potential not the quality of a hub, so that is based on keywords, so really that is for when you want mroe money potential.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

Pamela99-- you are welcome.

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Hello, hello, 2 years ago

I understood all you were writing but one thing I don't understand is that a hub which has let's say three click in one day or even eight, the other day - the arrow shows down. Then some of my hubs have 300 or 400 words and they have $$$$ or $$$$$ against it. Some have 800 or 1100 and they have $$$ and I am not being funny but they are full information and hopefully good. It buffled about it. I comment to every hub they sent me emails because i know how I feel and so I don't do it to others. I have about 40-50 a day which wants to be done. Yet, I am sorry to say, I have only about 10 or 12 always commenting. I am grateful for the comments I am getting make no mistake and I made some wonderful friends which I didn't expect and I am surprised. I hope after saying all this I am not getting shipped off to an isolated island never to be spoke to.

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Pamela99 Level 7 Commenter 2 years ago

Another great hub Rebecca. Thanks.

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Rebecca E. Hub Author 2 years ago

lorlie6-- sometime we all ned a refreasher, and that of course only makes us stronger, but your writing is awesome!

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lorlie6 Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

Thanks yet again, Rebecca. Even though some of the 'basics' are still Greek to me, I'm learning every day-or at least trying to!

Laurel

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